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            <title>Close Call in Greensboro (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It was 6 am on the hanger ramp,1986 and time to taxi my 727 to the flight line for its day of service.I was a rookie at taxing so I was being carefull.It was foggy that  morning and visability was maybe 50 feet.I approached the &quot;hold short line&quot; at the taxi lane and called the tower for clearance to cross the &quot;active&quot; runway to the terminal.I thought I heard the tower say OK to cross the  active but I paused and asked the right seater if thats what he said.He was unsure also.I hesitated asking the tower again because he was very &quot;TESTY&quot; in tone.Being the rookie I was I wanted to be sure so I sucked it up and called for clearance again.He yelled over the radio saying &quot;I told you to hold short,hold short!&quot;.Within 3 seconds I saw a blurr go by my nose. No more than 25 feet forward of my nose a DC-10 was rotating on take off....I was soo glad my brakes were still locked and that I had called for clarification.Today when I am enterring traffic I always remember that morning and how much it pays to be patient.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>dendarnell</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:13:14 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Verne Crisp story. . . . . . (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ A great story from our buddy, Verne Crisp. . . . . . . Verne has always been able to tell the greatest stories.<br />
Don Shanks<br />
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I started to work for Piedmont Airlines on the morning of December 24 1956 at RDU.  Chester Nutt hired me and when I came in that morning Chester told me to report to Bill Jett and he would &quot;show me what to do&quot;.  <br />
<br />
I spent the morning and half the afternoon handling baggage, talking with Bill and reading manuals.  I think we had eight flights a day at RDU back then, and about 12-14 employees working at RDU at the time.  <br />
<br />
Everyone gathered around the teletype mid-afternoon when a message from Mr. Davis came off.  As I remember I think we got an additional holiday granted for 1957 along with a raise as well as Mr. Davis' thanks for a good year and best wishes for the next one. I beleive my raise amounted to about $20.00, which was good money back then.  <br />
<br />
At five o'clock Chester told me to take two days off since Bill was going to be off two days and he wanted me working with him.  In summary .... I worked less than eight hours before I got an extra day off each year, a twenty dollar a month raise and two days down time.. <br />
<br />
How could any one not like working for this company !!<br />
 <br />
It was MANY years before I got Christmas Day off again !!!!!<br />
  <br />
Merry Christmas to all of you left out there.........<br />
 <br />
Verne - Employee/Payroll #5002]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Don Shanks</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:05:23 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Captain Jerry Ward, the Blackbird at GSB (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Another great story from my email INBOX that needs sharing. This one from Capt Jerry Ward to Ronnie Macklin - another GSB story.<br />
Don Shanks<br />
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Ron,<br />
 <br />
After watching this great tribute to the SR-71, I must relate a much less exciting experience that I had with this outstanding aircraft.<br />
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Piedmont had a very small terminal, located at the end of a narrow taxiway, next to a graveyard, that extended from the run-up pad of runway 26. I do not remember the time or year,  I believe it was about 1972, but I do have vivid memory of the SR-71 that we encountered that day.<br />
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After taxiing past the graveyard and approaching the run-up pad, we were told to hold for a priority departure. The blackbird was still short of the runway completing his pre takeoff checklist, with a fuel truck still connected. Fuel was pouring out of the airplane and running onto the ramp. The truck disconnected and the tower gave the Blackbird T/O clearance. He taxied onto the runway, immediately went into afterburner, after a surprisingly short run - he lifted into the air. As I best remember his initial angle of climb was (a guess) about thirty degrees, and immediately increased to about 45 degrees. He was out of sight within less than a minute, again that is thru the fog of time, but I don't believe I'm too far off. That was the most amazing show of brute power that I've ever seen. <br />
 <br />
I'm told that a tanker is on station, close-by the takeoff airport, because he will shortly run out of fuel after one of those amazing takeoffs.<br />
 <br />
Anyway, That was my experience watching the SR-71. She was indeed amazing.<br />
 <br />
Jerry<br />
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PS. I'll never forget that graveyard. I was not particularly fond of going into GSB, because the largest tombstone there had the name &quot;WARD&quot; on it.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Don Shanks</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:30:53 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Verne Crisp in GSB (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ There are great Piedmont stories that show up in my email INBOX that need to be posted here for everyone to read.  Here is one that i received from our friend Verne Crisp.<br />
Don Shanks<br />
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I worked at GSB in 1966-67.  I remember the graveyard and also the hog lot across from the terminal...it got intense on warm days  !! I remember when Leon Fox landed there one nite and got lost of the taxiways.  GSB was a SAC base at that time and security around the A Bombs was as tight as it gets. HE GOT escorted back to the runup pad by a &quot;Follow Me&quot; and got a royal ass chewing from the base duty officer. Since Capt Fox was pretty good at chewing ass himself we really got a kick out of that incident !! Another incident that I remember about GSB  involved Capt Pappy Wilkes. GSB had a cable across a part of the runway that was referred to as the  &quot;Jet Barrier&quot;  They issued Notams... Jet Barrier Up   or  Jet Barrier Down   We had just started to land there and Pappy didn't realize that  Jet Barrier Down  didn't mean it was removed from the runway  only slacked and laying across the runwa y. He landed over the threshhold and short of the barrier. Either the First Officer or the tower alerted him and he did a touch and go and got airborne before he ran over it. This was on either an F-27  or an FH 227.....lucky to get it spooled up and back in the air !!   This also brought about a visit from the Base  Duty Officer  Thanks for jarring my memories !!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Don Shanks</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:24:14 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Carol Fair to be inducted into NC Transportation Hall of Fame (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Carol Dobyns Fair who is the most Senior original Piedmont Airlines Flight Attendant still flying ,will be inducted into the NC Transportation Hall Of Fame on October 5 2008.Carol has served Piedmont and the Airline Industry well for many years. She will join a list  other well known aviation people that includes Orvel and Wilbur Wright and T H Davis.I know that many of us remember Carol fondly and congratulate her on this great  honor. This has been quite a ride for a fine ole Tri-Cities girl!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Verne Crisp</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:06:31 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Snowed in at CLT in 1987 (3 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Does anyone else remember staying all night at CLT while the airport was closed and full of passengers? My group on D Concourse stayed all night, worked the next morning shift, went home for a couple of hours for a short sleep then came back to work the evening shift the same day.<br />
I don't recall being much more tired than that over the years.<br />
If you were there, please post a comment here.<br />
I don't know how many of my CLT co-workers are logged in here.<br />
<br />
Steve]]></description>
            <dc:creator>stevelyons</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:52:05 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>The Godfather of Soul..... James Brown (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ One evening, while working on D Concourse, where the commuter flights were, as we were showing passengers where to board our little Jetstream J31s, I was working the Agusta Ga AGS flt. All of a sudden, one of the girls called out....&quot;Here comes James Brown! - I FEEL GOOD,,, nanananananana.&quot; Sure enough, he was not far behind her. We were all around him, Piedmont agents, both ramp and customer service, getting autographs. His wife was with him and they were both dressed to the hilt in class. I will never forget that FIRM handshake! And I don't know what happened to that ticket jacket he signed for me. Maybe someday it will show up.<br />
I often tell people..... &quot;Shake the hand of the man, who shook the hand, of James Brown!&quot; And Billy Graham.... and..... (the list goes on).<br />
<br />
Almost sounds like the life of Forrest Gump :)<br />
<br />
Steve]]></description>
            <dc:creator>stevelyons</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:15:07 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>The Reverend Billy Graham on a CLT - DCA flight (3 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Not long after my wife and I got married in the late 1980s, I was working a sunday morning at CLT around the end of the C concourse. It was on the even number side on the left end beside C18 and C16, one of those corner gates.<br />
It was a DCA flight using a relatively new Boeing 737-300.<br />
It was a slow and quiet morning. Not many passengers in the boarding lounge.<br />
After all the passengers deplaned, I did what I often did when no one was up at the counter when we took turns pulling tickets while the other agent in our two person team was working the seat assignment checkin desk, I walked down to the plane for a walkthrough to see if any crewmembers I knew were working the flight.<br />
When I got down there, the cabin was empty, all except for Reverend Billy Graham.<br />
 I offered him my handshake and told him what an Honor it was to meet him.<br />
We spoke for a few short moments and then I made my way back up the jetway, seeming like a dream, as it was hard to believe that I actually got to meet him after all these years.<br />
We often got to meet famous people while working at Piedmont.<br />
It was one of the many little purks.<br />
We knew that it was equally important to be discrete and not make too big a deal of it so that their trip would be pleasant and to respect their privacy.<br />
He was one of many I met at Piedmont that I will treasure the memory!<br />
<br />
Steve]]></description>
            <dc:creator>stevelyons</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:19:41 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>A snowy trip to watch overnight 727 (4 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The year was 1985, it was spring...<br />
But you'd never know it by the weather we were having at TRI.<br />
The snow was deep and it was around -20 (20 below -0-).<br />
I had to get to TRI to work and I was not so experienced at driving in snow.<br />
My Dad, Herman Lyons, volunteered to drive me to the airport in his ole<br />
 1972 Dodge maxivan. It was one of my favorite vehicles Dad had.<br />
I called it the Piedmont van. We had it painted up in shades of blue.<br />
Dad drove through the two lane winding roads of sullivan country from Bluff City to Blountville via I-81 to the airport. It was a slow drive as the roads were iced over and hazardous. Dad braved the night weather for me so I could get to work.<br />
We got there and all was well. I spent the night aboard the 727 as I had done<br />
 and continued to do on many occasions, sometimes going in to classes at ETSU the next morning.<br />
I kept the bird warm so that the pipes did not freeze over.<br />
I will always remember those times, just the 727 and me.<br />
The aft airstairs and that cold breeze and snow blowing.<br />
When it's that cold, you can't stay outside very long and you have to<br />
 take quick short breaths.<br />
I will remember my parents dedication to my job long after they are gone.<br />
Dad is now 77 and Mom almost 81.<br />
God Bless them both.<br />
<br />
Steve]]></description>
            <dc:creator>stevelyons</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:38:07 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>1989 GSO Emergency Landing (7 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Greetings,<br />
<br />
I was working in the media in August of 1989 when the Piedmont 737 made that incredible landing in Greensboro.  One of the landing gear was jammed and I remember the pilot making several passes before finally touching down safely.<br />
<br />
This was only days before the name change... Does anyone remember any details of what exactly happened?  What was the result of the investigation?  I can't recall.<br />
<br />
Anyway... many thanks for letting me read all of your memories.  Piedmont was, and in myopinion, will always BE the very best.  The model of not only what a good airline should be... but what a good COMPANY should be.<br />
<br />
All my best,<br />
Chris<br />
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            <dc:creator>Chris Runge</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:13:40 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>pic (3 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Looking for the pair of names on the back of the picture of T.H.Davis leaning against his Mercedes Benz we employees bougth him.  Cookie Synder and pam Corum from Clemmons N.C. any help plz contact]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Ronnie Ellis</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:59:12 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Flight 230 (8 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Does anyone else out there remember this-- surely, somebody does... the &quot;James River Pacemaker&quot; (FH-227) which crashed on landing at the Charleston WV airport on August 10, 1968? I heard the bulletin on the T.V. news less than an hour after the accident-- 'deja vu'-- just over a year after hearing the bulletin on the car radio about the Flight 22 accident in Hendersonville NC.<br />
Among the passengers who died aboard Flight 230 was 10 year-old Barbara Swiggett of Hampton VA. She had been visiting an aunt in Cincinnati, and her parents wanted her to experience the marvels of her very first flight on her return to VA, which was supposed to terminate uneventfully at ORF. She was the daughter of my oldest sister's English teacher at Hampton High School. I started into the 9nth grade of junior high school in September 1968. On one gray, overcast day, this dark-haired woman wearing sunglasses entered my English classroom and spent several minutes chatting with my English teacher at the front of the classroom.  After the friendly conversation ended and this woman had left our classroom, our teacher announced to us that she was the mother of that 10 year old girl who had died in a plane crash in August.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:31:30 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>The day the name changed. (4 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I retired from PAI on the last day of June, 1989 along with two or three others. There were refreshments in the cafeteria for us and our families that day, provided by the company. Mr. Howard Cartwright, the previously retired Vice President of Maintenance and Engineering came in that day and was with us in the cafeteria. He and I were looking out the cafeteria window that over looks the hangar maintenance bay as the first aircraft with a US Airways paint scheme was being towed into the hangar. We watched for a few moments in silence then he turned to face me and with a very sad, pained and solemn look, born out of deep deep hurt, he said, <br />
&quot;I never thought that I would ever see it come to this&quot;, and there was a tear making its way down his cheek. I always had a great deal of respect for Mr. Cartwright, but his sharing of this personal moment of sorrow and sadness with with me made an impression on me that I shall never forget. I was very sad at his passing, but I am also glad that he didn't have to witness what has happened to &quot;His Piedmont Airlines&quot; in the years since his death. I have had many memorable moments during my career at Piedmont, but this one seems to stand out above them all!!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jack M. Taylor</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 01:41:18 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>PI's No.1 Rev Psgr (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Who was Piedmont's first paying passenger on the Wilmington first flight 41?  At Piedmont's demise, what was the route of Flight 41?  Why was Piedmont's first flight, Flight 41; why not Flight 01?  And why Flight 41 vs. Flight 14? Was there any system scheme to numbering flights; for example, East/West flights, vs.North/South flights?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jim Miller</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:27:27 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>short ticket...long flight (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I could write a book about my 3 1/2 years with the greatest airline ever, but one story really stands out above all others.  DC-3 days, about '54, round trip from ORF to CVG, weather lousy.  Had a passenger get on in ORF who was going to RIC, conduct business, and catch us on the return.  Wx  was below minimuns as we approached RIC and I informed him we would drop him off in LYH and they'd send him back to RIC.  Well, let's just cut this short right now.  As the flight progressed  westward, so did the below minimums.  We overflew 'em all, Lyh, ROA, BKW, CHW, HTW.  BUT, we were able to get into CVG.  The man was beside himself by this time but while having lunch with the Capt, Co-pilot and me, the purser, the Wx went below there.  Several hours later, I had to inform him that we were cancelling the flight for the day and would originate #32 the next morning.  <br />
Piedmont would pick up the cost of everything but not the drinks if he chose to have a couple with us in town.  He couldn't believe he started off on a 75 mile trip and was endiing up in Ohio.  <br />
<br />
ANYWAY....fast forward to the next day and we hit every stop until we got close to RIC and it went down too.  He was good natured about it though.  <br />
On landing, back in ORF, he jokingly said it was the last time he'd fly with us.  <br />
<br />
I wonder how many former ORF pursers from those days are out there.  <br />
Would like to hear from any of them...Jim....1951 ti 1955.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>jim daniel</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:55:44 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Remember the Buckeye Pacemaker (4 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Piedmont Flight 349,<br />
 The Jan/Feb copy of Airliners Magazine has a six-page in depth coverage of Piedmont,s ill-fated flight 349.<br />
N55V, one of Piedmonts DC-3,s crashed outside of Waynesboro, Va. October 30,1959    <br />
<br />
Rember Piedmont,s Buckeye Pacemaker! Flight 349<br />
<br />
<br />
J.R. Culler]]></description>
            <dc:creator>J.R. Culler</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:44:55 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>flight 22 (4 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Mr. Jemmitt Taylor of the Piedmont family has requested I place the following information on this website.<br />
<br />
My name is Paul Houle.  I live in Spartanburg, SC and I have been researching the mid-air collision of Piedmont Flight 22 with a Cessna 310 over the skies of Hendersonville, NC in 1967.  During my research, I discovered that there was NO marker, memorial or monument dedicated to the victims of that crash.  I have organized an effort to raise money to get a memorial in place by next July 19, 2003, the thirty-sixth anniversary of the tragic crash.<br />
<br />
I have been assured that if the money is raised, the memorial will become a reality. Please forward any contributions you wish to make to:<br />
<br />
The Flight 22 Memorial Fund<br />
P.O. Box 681<br />
Inman, SC 29349<br />
<br />
If anyone knows the whereabouts of any relatives of either crew of passengers on the flight, please let them know this news.  If anyone needs any further information from me concerning a contribution, please e-mail me at <a href="mailto:&#72;&#111;&#117;&#108;&#80;&#97;&#117;&#64;&#97;&#111;&#108;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#72;&#111;&#117;&#108;&#80;&#97;&#117;&#64;&#97;&#111;&#108;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> or call me at (864)814-4659.<br />
<br />
Thanks!!!!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Paul Houle</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:45:18 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>PI in SAN..who handled PI (3 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ and was the first serv on a 727-200 CLT-PHX-SAN?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:17:04 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>REsearch (3 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I'm looking to contact anyone who was with PI (ILM ) ops and/or flt crews between '73 to '75.  Thanks,  Robin Robinson  DCA  ops '68 to '75 .]]></description>
            <dc:creator>H. W. Robinson</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:19:40 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>On an October afternoon (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ On an early October afternoon , 1984, a Newhire Piedmont Ops Agent, loaded his first flight, a 737-200. I think it was going to CLT-DCA, or CLT-GSO as there were those two flights on the ground, best I can remember.<br />
The air was crisp with the sun out.<br />
The little picture that appears on the front of the homepage here now, was in the inside first page of PACE magazine at that time.<br />
The picture reminded me of the feeling I had.<br />
The feeling was not only one of total heartfelt joy, but one of security.<br />
I KNEW that the company I worked for CARED.<br />
Not only for myself, but the thousands of other Piedmont People and the Passenger the planes carried to their destainations.<br />
Wouldn't it be GRAND?!<br />
If there was still an airline like that around.....<br />
Close enough for us to get back and forth to work there today?<br />
I know that I would make a path to their door and beg to be a part of that!<br />
<br />
:)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Steve Lyons</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:44:08 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>The Fokker Aircraft (31 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ This article if especially for all those who replied to my postings in defense of Boeing aircraft.<br />
If you liked that one, You will LOVE this one!<br />
As Boeing is my all time favorite, it is NOT the only aircraft I have ever loved.<br />
Take the Fokker for example.<br />
Now here, for all you foreign manufacturer defenders.......<br />
is an aircraft totally made in Holland!<br />
Yes, Fokker, the aircraft company that produced the F27 and more importantly for Piedmont lovers......<br />
The F28!<br />
I flew countless miles also on the Fokker F28-1000/-4000 models over the years with Piedmont/USAir.<br />
And I cleaned them, and rode jump seat in them.<br />
I truly Loved the Fokker F28 and F100.<br />
Although the F100 in the USAir fleet (USAir was the only of the two that had those, recieved the first in 1990) was difficult to climb into it's bins, it was not that hard to work them.<br />
Just roll a cart of bags under the belly and stand on it, while the guy inside<br />
slides the bags easily across the hard clear plastic floor liners.<br />
This little jet served us well.<br />
And it's a shame to see them all retired!<br />
Piedmont got it's first in 1984 which were bought from Fokker as rebuilt formerly owned Garuda Airlines jets.<br />
You see, Piedmont owned most of it's fleet. And although today most airlines frown at that and say it isn't cost effective, we need to remember that owning aircraft IS cost effective if you don't change aircraft as often as your Dad trades cars!<br />
Piedmont bought alot of aircraft used! Ooooooo.<br />
Bad word?<br />
Not really. Used 727s from Delta and PSA and All Nippon served us well, very well over the years!<br />
But Piedmont also purchased many F28-4000s NEW.<br />
I have a question for those still at USAirways......<br />
Why did USAirways retire their entire fleet decade old Fokker F100s and then want to turn around and buy Regional Jets?<br />
Let me tell you what is happening in the airline industry that perplexes me.<br />
Tri-Cities, Kinston NC, and simular communities are LOOSING flights that used to be MAINLINE PIEDMONT AIRLINES.<br />
Those are being replaced by commuter code share companies.<br />
I have one answer.......the passengers don't matter anymore.<br />
I read alot on the net, and read about business people who depend on getting from smaller towns to large ones who can no longer ride anything but weed eaters to their hubs cause the big iron doesnt think their town is an important part of their network anymore and is not profitable.<br />
I hear times are changing till it makes me scream!<br />
But know this, major airlines are throwing away customers and running them off to others and effecting the bottom line that way too.<br />
You can make anything look good on paper.<br />
Getting it to work in real life takes vision.<br />
Tom Davis had the vision to serve the smaller communites when no one else would.<br />
It is getting to the point again where no one else will.<br />
Again.<br />
History repeats itself.<br />
The future of the airline industry belongs to those who will gladly serve their customers. Period.<br />
All others can file for bankruptcy.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Steve Lyons</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:04:27 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Few Piedmont Aircraft left at USAirways (44 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Dear Friends,<br />
<br />
It has occured to me over the past few months, reading about so many old Piedmont aircraft being retired from USAirways as they try to recover from years of losses and try to slim down, complete, survive or what ever you want to call it..........<br />
As I read on the internet about the aircraft they have retired in recent months/years, and look up the tail numbers on a search engine to find that these have been either cut up, set on display, used for training exercises in a non-flying capacity, sold to other airlines and are still in flight etc......<br />
I realize that there are FEW actual Piedmont Airlines aircraft still in service.<br />
When I say few, I am saying maybe less than 100? Maybe even less than that!<br />
USAirways has retired all or most of the following at this point or has plans to retire them........<br />
737-200<br />
727-200<br />
MD80 all series all from PSA!<br />
F100 (these were not that old, almost new)<br />
DC9<br />
Fokker F28-1000 and F28-4000 (years ago)<br />
BAE146 from PSA!<br />
And, at this point, I would imagine, that the ONLY old Piedmont Jets they still have were all delivered after May of 1985.<br />
That was the month that Piedmont took delivery of it's first 737-300!<br />
I remember that day well!<br />
The -300 was a state of the art and hard to beat aircraft.<br />
But it would likely be the oldest jet in the fleet now.<br />
Imagine that! A 737-300 from May 1985 as the oldest aircraft in the fleet.<br />
Former Piedmont Jets still in use would likely be<br />
737-300<br />
737-400<br />
767-200<br />
And that about does it folks, unless they still have a few old ones around that are scheduled for retirement but havent made it out yet.<br />
<br />
I know that DC9s are history there already and I think 737-200s are.<br />
And that is sad. It's sad to hear that 737-200 and 727-200 aircraft are not fuel efficient enough to &quot;make it&quot; in the real airlines these days.<br />
Cause I remember a few short years ago when they were the mainstay of the Piedmont fleet.<br />
Do any of you join me in sheading a few tears over these fine aircraft that served us so well for so long?<br />
If so, email me!<br />
Also, if there are those of you out there who enjoy flight simulation on microsoft flight simulator, please contact me.<br />
We still fly those old birds in flight sim!<br />
All the way back to the YS11s and Martin 404s!<br />
<br />
God Bless,<br />
<br />
Steve Lyons]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Steve Lyons</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:28:12 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>on the job pranks (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I guess it's safe to tell this now..I was still part-time at TRI, it was Stan's (can't remember his last name)  birthday and he had offered me $$ to stay the  last four hours of his shift, and being a broke part-timer I accepted..Well, at the time we had a TRI to AVL flight.  That night we were booked to a big 0.  I went up with Dick Miller to dispatch the flight.  He shut the door, with me inside and yelled to the Captain to take off!! And he did!!  So off I go to AVL. Luckily, the same front end crew was bringing back the AVL/TRI leg also, but with a different f/a crew and some pax!!. I had no purse, no contact solution..nothing..Then, it starts to get foggy in AVL..long story short..we made it back..My supervisor Charlie Johnson, opened the door, looked at me and said , &quot;I'm not even gonna ask.  Goodnight Pam.&quot;  <br />
<br />
Oh, the good old days!!!!!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pam Wilson-Masone</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:17:10 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>I know threre are many stories (4 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Come on guys I know that there are many stories out there in PI land that should be told; history ,people,humor and yes tradegities.  Speake up this are your AILINER &quot;ROOTS&quot;.  Share,  See Ya, Robin ( bigbirddaddy@hot mail.com )   P/S; funny that I shold have email monicur, I had it 2 years before finding you guys.  Weird, huh?  Fate I guess.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>H. W. Robinson</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:24:53 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>DCA water hole (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I was on the ramp one of the times the storm drain backedup, which was common on really bad rainy days.  I was up front unloading the front top cargo bins on a Martin 404.  The captain and the copilot passed by because the flight was late and they where the turn around crews. Nexted came out was a male jumpseat rider.  He stopped and said to the effect do need some help? I said it would be appreciated.  He took off his sports coat and began helping.  When unloaded he asked if I was o.k. now?  I said yes as the new onboard catgo was coming up.  Later when I got back into ops I was being teased that a celebitrey had been my aide.  Then I found out it was Mr. Tom Davis.  This I will never forget.  Thankyou a most remarkable man, you are and will be missed.   Hubert Wm. (aka) Robinson  DCA PI 1968-1973   <a href="mailto:&#98;&#105;&#103;&#98;&#105;&#114;&#100;&#100;&#97;&#100;&#100;&#121;&#64;&#104;&#111;&#116;&#109;&#97;&#105;&#108;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#98;&#105;&#103;&#98;&#105;&#114;&#100;&#100;&#97;&#100;&#100;&#121;&#64;&#104;&#111;&#116;&#109;&#97;&#105;&#108;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>H. W. Robinson</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2002 01:54:06 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>I Remember a Time When. . . (2 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ ... we had an agent in IAH comat a canoe to another agent in FAY. The canoe took up all of “Bin Three” (rear part of the forward cargo hold) in a 727 on a flight that ran IAH, CLT, FAY, ORF, and LGA. Before the flight got to CLT (with the canoe already on board), we called CLT and asked to speak to one of the agents who would be working Flight 52 as it passed through that station. Without any specifics, we told him if he noticed anything unusual in Bin 3 to just ignore it and we would be happy to tend to any “unusualness” when the flight got to FAY. Needless to say the canoe arrived in fine order. It looked funny to see five baggage carts behind a tug – four with bags and one with a canoe. <br />
** Accommodating **<br />
.<br />
.<br />
... a regular passenger who I will call, “Mr. C”, came from LGA down to FAY every other weekend. He would buy 26 round-trip tickets at one time every year, usually in January. He always brought me a Christmas or New Years present, depending on his schedule that particular year. “Mr. C” was unique. The only thing he ever wanted was seat 3C, to board with the pre-boards, and to visit with us for a minute or two when he walked up to the gate. We kept up with his travel cycles. We would always pull his “3C Sticky Tab” long before he would get to the airport. <br />
** Best Customers **<br />
.<br />
.<br />
... I held the start valve open with a long screwdriver on a balky engine of a 737 for the first time. To be an operations agent and have your face only about a foot away from the side of a JT8 engine when it started was, how best to put it, “exciting?” We got the flight out on time! My heart returned to normal later in the day! <br />
** Resourceful **<br />
.<br />
.<br />
... there was a little nut shop in the old gate area in LGA that had the best cashew nuts in the world. I was working in FAY one evening and got hungry for some “New York Cashews.” I called operations in LGA and asked to speak to whoever was the captain of flight 359 that would wind up in FAY about three hours later. I asked the captain if he would spot me five bucks and buy me some cashews. I said I’d pay him on arrival. He did and I did. <br />
** Trust and Respect **<br />
.<br />
.<br />
... I met Mr. Davis the second time. He remembered my name from the first time. <br />
** Class **<br />
.<br />
.<br />
Andy Ray<br />
FAY/BWI/INT]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Andy Ray</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:19:36 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Remember Piedmont Flight 22 (4 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Some thirty four years ago we all lost someone dear to us in the crash of the Manhattan Pacemaker. It was 19 July 1967 and at 1201 EDT Flt. 22 a Boeing 727-100<br />
N68650 Manhattan Pacemaker was departing AVl en rt to ROA.<br />
Aboard was a crew of five and seventy four pax. Flt. 22 was departing rwy 16 and climbing for the freedom that only altitude would provide. at the same time a Cessna 310 was in bound for AVL and for some unknown reason the C-310 had deviated off course at 6,132 ft. over the city of Hendersonville, N. C. the C-310 slammed head-on into Piedmont flight 22.<br />
Parts of both aircraft rained down on the city. a rather large section of the fuselage had came to rest in the middle of a street, mostly upright. she was still strapped in her seat, every bone in her body was broken. Sweet Dreams and Flying Machines In Pieces On the Ground still echo through my mind.<br />
She had so much to live for. The last time I saw her was a few months earlier, she was boarding a YS-11 at INT.<br />
At this time each year I say a little prayer for the Flight Crew and Seventy Four Passengers of Piedmont Flight 22.<br />
And remember a Girl I once Knew.<br />
<br />
Remember Piedmont Flight 22]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Joe Culler</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:41:36 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Texas Thunderstorm (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ 1980-ish, I was working a 737 flight from CLT to somewhere in Texas. Late afternoon TRWs were everywhere you looked, and after a LOT of vectoring and circling, we finally landed...really late. About the time we got to the gate, a real honest-to-goodness TEXAS-sized storm hit the airport and rained like you seldom see outside of a hurricane!<br />
<br />
The poor ramp agents were sloshing around, caterers, cleaners, boarding agents all trying to make a quick turn-around in that mess. We boarded a FULL LOAD of pax going to CLT, I was getting the final headcount, when a guy pointed to the window by his seat and asked if that crack was supposed to be there. HUH? Sure enough, it looked like a crack that zigzagged from the top right corner to the bottom left corner.<br />
<br />
Go get the captain; yep, looks like it's cracked. Whichever station this was didn't have PAI-M, but eventually a mechanic from whoever provided maintenance there showed up and confirms that the window is indeed cracked. The nearest replacement is in GSO. The flight is cancelled.<br />
<br />
By now, it has gotten rather late. All those pax had to be rescheduled, rerouted, put in hotels, etc. <br />
<br />
The plan was for the replacement window to be flown in from GSO on a small plane, the repair made, and we'd take the ac back to CLT (GSO?) at 0-dark:30 the next morning.<br />
<br />
After a few hours at the hotel, we showed up for the flight east; the captain asked the mechanic about the repairs. The mechanic said the new window had arrived, but as soon as they started loosening the broken window to remove it, the &quot;crack&quot; drained right out! Somehow, rainwater had gotten inside and fooled everyone!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Margie Kye</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2002 16:44:26 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>The D.B. Cooper Airplane (12 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Ronnie Macklin, the keeper of much of Piedmont's great history, provides us with the following Piedmont trivia!<br />
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On November 24, 1971, passenger D. B. Cooper, aboard a Northwest Airlines flight, hijacked the airplane. He was given a $200,000 ransom when he threatened to detonate a bomb. Cooper then parachuted from the plane with the $200,000 and was never heard from again! The plane's pilot was William &quot;Scotty&quot; Scott and he died this week of prostate cancer, in Green Valley, Arizona, at the age of 81.<br />
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Piedmont Airlines bought the airplane from Northwest. At Northwest it was numbered N407US. Piedmont renumbered it as N838N and flew it in passenger service. The plane was eventually retired and later leased to Pratt &amp; Whitney who flew it after placing a plaque in the front of the plane stating that it was the plane from which D. B. Cooper parachuted. Piedmont later sold the airplane and Key Airlines renumbered it as N29KA.<br />
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Piedmont sold the airplane in September 1984. After we sold it, Ronnie says there were many aviation historians trying to trace it. They wanted to know if it was the &quot;real one&quot;! There were many people claiming that they had the airplane and that led to much confusion.<br />
<br />
Ronnie says that there is an entry in the log book in N838N about the hijacking and the bail out through the rear steps of the Boeing 727. After this particular hijacking, the airlines moved quickly to prevent the opening of the 727 steps from the inside of the plane. A “vane”, (an air foil) was installed on the outside of the airplane just to the left of the air stairs as you enter the 727 through the rear steps. After takeoff the wind would hit the “vane” pushing it up and locking the air stairs preventing them from be opened while in flight. A very simple - - but very effective fix. After Cooper, there were no hijackings that used the rear steps of the 727 to jump from the plane.<br />
<br />
Ronnie says that the airplane was scrapped for parts in January 1993. <br />
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The plane’s parts, probably like D. B. Cooper’s “parts”, are scattered around the world! Is it possible that the two of them. . . . . . naw! . . . . .well maybe!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Don Shanks</dc:creator>
            <category>Memorable Moments</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:21:11 -0400</pubDate>
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